Aihe: Hopeareunaisia kortteja lailliseksi Commanderissa

[Frost]

Eli ilmeisesti EDH:n committee on päättänyt sallia Un-settien hopereunaisten korttien pelaamisen EDH:ssa ainakin tammikuun 15. päivään asti. Toki osa villeimmistä korteista on bannattu ja muutamien muidenkin rikkinäisten peluuttamista pyydetään harkitsemaan tarkasti omassa peliporukassa.

Mutta mitäs mieltä ihmiset? Uskotteko että tuo on väliaikainen testi vai jatkuu pidempään? Tuleeko vaikuttamaan Un-korttien hintoihin?

http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18749

(click to show/hide)

"Until the next banned list announcement (January 15), silver-bordered cards are legal in Commander.

Yes, you heard that right. Dust off those Fruitcake Elementals and unleash the unsanity! It's time to celebrate Unstable.

The following cards are banned. They have rules that span multiple games, which is problematic for single-game multiplayer, are variants of cards already banned, or are too nightmarish for even us to contemplate:

Ashnod's Coupon
Double Cross
Double Deal
Double Dip
Double Play
Double Take
Enter the Dungeon
Magical Hacker
Mox Lotus
Once More With Feeling
R&Ds Secret Lair
Richard Garfield
Staying Power
Time Machine

You should be careful with the following cards. They work OK within the framework of Commander, so we aren't going to ban them, but are likely to give your playgroup a headache or lead to problematic games if you're not careful. Use them responsibly and remember that if you're playing cards your opponents don't enjoy playing against, they probably won't want to play with you any more:

Ach! Hans, Run!
Collector Protector
Incoming
Infernal Spawn of Infernal Spawn of Evil
Johnny, Combo Player
Mirror, Mirror
Topsy Turvy
Yet Another Aether Vortex

Personally, I recommend avoiding the Gotcha cards, as they're a fast way to lose friends, but they're not terribly broken in the wider context of silver borders, unless you use them to collude. But, if you're doing that, you've missed the point entirely."

[Pifase]

Netin ihmemaasta bongattua...

It is now possible in commander to rip up your opponents' cards as a valid game action.

-Mill your opponent(s) a bunch and then cast Ghastly Conscription to manifest a significant portion of their deck.

-Play Chaos Confetti or Blacker Lotus, animate it using Ensoul Artifact or the like.

-Play Mirrorweave on the animated artifact. You can now rip up all of the manifested cards.

Note: Though this is legal via game rules, it is probably still illegal in terms of actual laws.

[Vartijainen]

Netin ihmemaasta bongattua...

It is now possible in commander to rip up your opponents' cards as a valid game action.

-Mill your opponent(s) a bunch and then cast Ghastly Conscription to manifest a significant portion of their deck.

-Play Chaos Confetti or Blacker Lotus, animate it using Ensoul Artifact or the like.

-Play Mirrorweave on the animated artifact. You can now rip up all of the manifested cards.

Note: Though this is legal via game rules, it is probably still illegal in terms of actual laws.

MaRo on tälläisiin tilanteisiin vastannut, että aina voi skuupata ennen kuin antaa luvan repiä kortteja. Toki muutenkin hyvä idea, koska päässee nopeammin eroon kamaluuksista (+ kamalista ihmisistä) kuin odottaen poliisin väliintuloa.

Edit: Kiitos Yms.

[Yms]

Kai se pitää täälläkin jonkun sanoa, mutta ei kukaan saa toisen kortteja lähteä repimään ilman kortin omistajan lupaa. Ja ei, pelaajan ei tarvitse scoopata estääkseen repimisen.